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		<title>作者：二逼</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[听了您的评论我自己脑补出来的景象更像是股票的K线图以及它不同级别的背离等等…]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>听了您的评论我自己脑补出来的景象更像是股票的K线图以及它不同级别的背离等等…</p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[p.58, ch.2 of Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending: The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution

Paths on Fitness Landscapes 

Another point: Ongoing natural selection in two populations can allow evolutionary events to occur that would be impossible in a single well-mixed population, since it allows for simultaneous exploration of divergent paths. Natural selection is short-sighted: Alleles increase in frequency because of their current advantage, not because they might someday be useful. Think of various possible solutions of some problem as hills, with higher hills corresponding to better solutions. Natural selection climbs up the first hill it chances upon; it can’t see that another solution has greater possibilities in the long run. Not only that: Since the environmental conditions of Europe and Africa were significantly different, evolution could try solutions in Europe that couldn’t be explored in Africa, because the initial step along that path had negative payoffs in Africa. In Europe, for example, you had to worry about staying warm enough, whereas Africans faced heat stress: These issues were important considerations in the evolution of larger brains. It may be that the relative unimportance of heat stress in Europe opened up some evolutionary pathways that had greater long-term possibilities than the ones that developed in Africa. 

Consider an analogy from the history of technology. Somewhere back in late classical times, the use of the camel was perfected—a better saddle was developed, for example, one that allowed camels to carry heavy loads efficiently. Throughout most of the Middle East and North Africa, camels were (after those developments) a superior means of land transportation: They were cheaper than ox-drawn wagons and not dependent upon roads. Over a few centuries, people in areas where camels were available abandoned wheeled vehicles and roads almost entirely.19 You can still see the effects in the oldest sections of some cities in the Arab world, where the alleys are far too narrow to have ever passed a cart or wagon. Europeans, not having camels, had to stick with wheeled vehicles, which were clearly more expensive, given the infrastructure they required. But as it turned out, wheeled vehicles—in fact, the whole road/wheeled vehicle system—could be improved. Back then, when camels seemed so much better, who knew that someday there would be horse collars and nailed horseshoes, then improved bridge construction, suspensions that reduced road shock, macadamized roads, steam power, internal combustion engines, and ultimately the nuclear Delorean. The motto here is that sometimes the apparently inferior choice has a better upgrade path: Evolution can’t know this, and we aren’t particularly good at recognizing it ourselves. On the genetic level, it translates as follows: Natural selection may solve the same problems differently in different populations, and what appears to be the most elegant solution at the time may not in fact turn out to be the one that works best in the long run. The seemingly inferior choice may come out on top down the road. It is easy to think of plausible cases: Imagine, for example, that excess heat production limited the trend toward larger brains in Africa, while in the climate of Europe heat was not much of a problem. Later, as evolution fine-tuned the physiology of large brains, much of the heat problem was solved—and so the new brain could then spread in Africa as well. 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>p.58, ch.2 of Gregory Cochran and Henry Harpending: The 10,000 Year Explosion: How Civilization Accelerated Human Evolution</p>
<p>Paths on Fitness Landscapes </p>
<p>Another point: Ongoing natural selection in two populations can allow evolutionary events to occur that would be impossible in a single well-mixed population, since it allows for simultaneous exploration of divergent paths. Natural selection is short-sighted: Alleles increase in frequency because of their current advantage, not because they might someday be useful. Think of various possible solutions of some problem as hills, with higher hills corresponding to better solutions. Natural selection climbs up the first hill it chances upon; it can’t see that another solution has greater possibilities in the long run. Not only that: Since the environmental conditions of Europe and Africa were significantly different, evolution could try solutions in Europe that couldn’t be explored in Africa, because the initial step along that path had negative payoffs in Africa. In Europe, for example, you had to worry about staying warm enough, whereas Africans faced heat stress: These issues were important considerations in the evolution of larger brains. It may be that the relative unimportance of heat stress in Europe opened up some evolutionary pathways that had greater long-term possibilities than the ones that developed in Africa. </p>
<p>Consider an analogy from the history of technology. Somewhere back in late classical times, the use of the camel was perfected—a better saddle was developed, for example, one that allowed camels to carry heavy loads efficiently. Throughout most of the Middle East and North Africa, camels were (after those developments) a superior means of land transportation: They were cheaper than ox-drawn wagons and not dependent upon roads. Over a few centuries, people in areas where camels were available abandoned wheeled vehicles and roads almost entirely.19 You can still see the effects in the oldest sections of some cities in the Arab world, where the alleys are far too narrow to have ever passed a cart or wagon. Europeans, not having camels, had to stick with wheeled vehicles, which were clearly more expensive, given the infrastructure they required. But as it turned out, wheeled vehicles—in fact, the whole road/wheeled vehicle system—could be improved. Back then, when camels seemed so much better, who knew that someday there would be horse collars and nailed horseshoes, then improved bridge construction, suspensions that reduced road shock, macadamized roads, steam power, internal combustion engines, and ultimately the nuclear Delorean. The motto here is that sometimes the apparently inferior choice has a better upgrade path: Evolution can’t know this, and we aren’t particularly good at recognizing it ourselves. On the genetic level, it translates as follows: Natural selection may solve the same problems differently in different populations, and what appears to be the most elegant solution at the time may not in fact turn out to be the one that works best in the long run. The seemingly inferior choice may come out on top down the road. It is easy to think of plausible cases: Imagine, for example, that excess heat production limited the trend toward larger brains in Africa, while in the climate of Europe heat was not much of a problem. Later, as evolution fine-tuned the physiology of large brains, much of the heat problem was solved—and so the new brain could then spread in Africa as well. </p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13124</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[辉格]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 16:04:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[失败率很高，但成功的收益很大，预期收益率可能不低。不过，据熊彼特说，创新总的来说对个人是不合算的，所以他认为“企业家精神”是一种独特的文化现象。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>失败率很高，但成功的收益很大，预期收益率可能不低。不过，据熊彼特说，创新总的来说对个人是不合算的，所以他认为“企业家精神”是一种独特的文化现象。</p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13118</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[辉格]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[对，面临绝境时也会做些平时不可能做的事情]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>对，面临绝境时也会做些平时不可能做的事情</p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13117</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[辉格]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[嗯，是这样]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>嗯，是这样</p>
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		<title>作者：小橘子</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13114</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[小橘子]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[对旧尺度均衡点的更大偏离不只有泡沫，还有衰退。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>对旧尺度均衡点的更大偏离不只有泡沫，还有衰退。</p>
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		<title>作者：小橘子</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13113</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[小橘子]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 15:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[这个尺度（scale）在渐进进化的语境中就是“物种”定义选取的宽窄。如果物种的定义选得宽，这个尺度就大，选得窄，尺度就小。在较大的尺度下，局部（local）的范围较大，物种的变异的可能性较广，进化的速度较快。以登山类比，较大的局部包含的高峰更高，在再次爬升前需要下降的高度更大。实际上，这个“再次爬升”“暂时下降”是一个较小局部的视角。在较大局部的视角上，登山者一直在爬升，就像在爬一座山峰时，即使在途中走进一个小坑（在较小局部上就可视为下降了），仍然可以说一直是在往上爬山。
在特定经济系统的语境中，这个尺度是时间尺度。即使不谈经济周期，经济系统也有短期均衡和长期均衡的不同尺度。在长期均衡的尺度上，经济系统就要偏离短期最优点。把这个尺度进一步拉大到包含多个经济周期，那么偏离的幅度以原来尺度的眼光看，就更大了。这个旧视角下的更大偏离，就被称为“泡沫”。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>这个尺度（scale）在渐进进化的语境中就是“物种”定义选取的宽窄。如果物种的定义选得宽，这个尺度就大，选得窄，尺度就小。在较大的尺度下，局部（local）的范围较大，物种的变异的可能性较广，进化的速度较快。以登山类比，较大的局部包含的高峰更高，在再次爬升前需要下降的高度更大。实际上，这个“再次爬升”“暂时下降”是一个较小局部的视角。在较大局部的视角上，登山者一直在爬升，就像在爬一座山峰时，即使在途中走进一个小坑（在较小局部上就可视为下降了），仍然可以说一直是在往上爬山。<br />
在特定经济系统的语境中，这个尺度是时间尺度。即使不谈经济周期，经济系统也有短期均衡和长期均衡的不同尺度。在长期均衡的尺度上，经济系统就要偏离短期最优点。把这个尺度进一步拉大到包含多个经济周期，那么偏离的幅度以原来尺度的眼光看，就更大了。这个旧视角下的更大偏离，就被称为“泡沫”。</p>
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		<title>作者：小橘子</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13107</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[小橘子]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 14:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[for what counts as local depends (not surprisingly) on the scale you use.
这话透彻的。丹尼特真是哲学家。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>for what counts as local depends (not surprisingly) on the scale you use.<br />
这话透彻的。丹尼特真是哲学家。</p>
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		<title>作者：小橘子</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-13100</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[小橘子]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 25 Jan 2013 13:48:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[好牛的文章，居然还是饭文。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>好牛的文章，居然还是饭文。</p>
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		<title>作者：海德沙龙（HeadSalon） &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [微言]国家与创新</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-8205</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[海德沙龙（HeadSalon） &#187; Blog Archive &#187; [微言]国家与创新]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2012 16:22:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] @茶博未：请教@whigzhou 读了《向女王道歉背后隐藏的自大》末2段让我联想到印度政府对IT教育强力注资扶持，培养出过剩的IT专才，让全球尤其美国获得很多便宜好用的程序员。再考虑从军方apanet进化来的internet。政府比企业家更擅长大手笔制造泡沫。政府因此也是创新的一个重要发生器？ [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] @茶博未：请教@whigzhou 读了《向女王道歉背后隐藏的自大》末2段让我联想到印度政府对IT教育强力注资扶持，培养出过剩的IT专才，让全球尤其美国获得很多便宜好用的程序员。再考虑从军方apanet进化来的internet。政府比企业家更擅长大手笔制造泡沫。政府因此也是创新的一个重要发生器？ [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
		<link>https://headsalon.org/archives/354.html#comment-6832</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Jul 2012 10:54:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Daniel C. Dennett - Darwin&#039;s Dangerous Idea, Ch.8, S.2, p.192 

The idea of a fitness landscape was introduced by Sewall Wright (1932), and it has become a standard imagination prosthesis for evolutionary theorists. It has proven its value in literally thousands of applications, including many outside of evolutionary theory. In Artificial Intelligence, economics, and other problem-solving domains, the model of problem-solving by incremental hill-climbing (or &quot;gradient ascent&quot;) has been deservedly popular. It has even been popular enough to motivate theorists to calculate its limitations, which are severe. For certain classes of problems—or, in other words, in certain types of landscape—simple hill-climbing is quite impotent, for an intuitively obvious reason: the climbers get stuck on local second-rate summits instead of finding their way to the global summit, the Mount Everest of perfection. (The same limitations beset the method of simulated annealing.) The Local Rule is fundamental to Darwinism; it is equivalent to the requirement that there cannot be any intelligent (or &quot;far-seeing&quot; ) foresight in the design process, but only ultimately stupid opportunistic exploitation of whatever lucky lifting happens your way. 

What Eigen has shown is that this simplest Darwinian model of steady improvement up a single slope of fitness to the optimal peak of perfection just doesn&#039;t work to describe what goes on in molecular or viral evolution. The rate of adaptation by viruses (and also of bacteria and other pathogens) is measurably faster than the &quot;classical&quot; models predict—so fast that it seems to involve illicit &quot;look-ahead&quot; by the climbers. So does this mean that Darwinism must be abandoned? Not at all, for what counts as local depends (not surprisingly) on the scale you use. 

Eigen draws our attention to the fact that when viruses evolve, they don&#039;t go single-file; they travel in huge herds of almost identical variants, a fuzzy-edged cloud in the Library of Mendel that Eigen calls a &quot;quasi-species.&quot; We already saw the unimaginably large cloud of Moby Dick variants in the Library of Babel, but any actual library is likely to have more than one or two variant editions of a book on its shelves, and in the case of a really popular book like Moby Dick it is also likely to have multiple copies of the same edition. Like actual Moby Dick collections, then, actual viral clouds include multiple identical copies but also multiple copies of minor typographical variants, and this fact has some implications, according to Eigen, that have been ignored by &quot;classical&quot; Darwinians. It is the shape of the cloud of variants that holds the key to the speed of molecular evolution. 

A classical term among geneticists for the canonical version of a species (analogous to the canonical text of Moby Dick) is the wild type. It was often supposed by biologists that among the many different genotypes in a population, the pure wild type would predominate. Analogous would be the claim that in any library collection of copies of Moby Dick, most copies will be of the received or canonical edition—if there is one! But this doesn&#039;t have to be the case for organisms any more than for books in libraries. In fact, the wild type is really just an abstraction, like the Average Taxpayer, and a population may contain no individuals at all that have exactly &quot;the&quot; wild-type genome. (Of course, the same is true of books—scholars might debate for years over the purity of a particular word in a particular text, and until such debates were resolved, nobody could say exactly what the canonical or wild-type text of that work was, but the identity of the work would hardly be in jeopardy. James Joyce&#039;s Ulysses would be a good case in point.) 

Eigen points out that this distribution of the &quot;essence&quot; over a variety of nearly identical vehicles turns out to make that essence much more movable, much more adaptable, especially in &quot;rugged&quot; fitness landscapes, with multiple peaks and few smooth slopes. It permits the essence to send out efficient scouting parties into the neighboring hills and ridges, ignoring wasteful exploration of the valleys, and thereby vastly (not Vastly, but enough to make a huge difference) enhancing its capacity to find higher peaks, better optima, at some distance from its center, where the (virtual) wild type sits. 

The reasons it works are summarized by Eigen as follows: 

Functionally competent mutants, whose selection values come close to that of the wild type (though remaining below it), reach far higher population numbers than those that are functionally ineffective. An asymmetric spectrum of mutants builds up, in which mutants far removed from the wild type arise successively from intermediates. The population in such a chain of mutants is influenced decisively by the structure of the value landscape. The value landscape consists of connected plains, hills, and mountain ranges. In the mountain ranges, the mutant spectrum is widely scattered, and along ridges even distant relatives of the wild type appear with finite [that is, not infinitesimal] frequency. It is precisely in the mountainous regions that further selectively superior mutants can be expected. As soon as one of these turns up on the periphery of a mutation spectrum the established ensemble collapses. A new ensemble builds up around the superior mutant, which thus takes over the role of the wild type___This causal chain results in a kind of &#039;mass action&#039;, by which the superior mutants are tested with much higher probability than inferior mutants, even if the latter are an equal distance away from the wild type. [Eigen 1992, p. 25.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Daniel C. Dennett &#8211; Darwin&#8217;s Dangerous Idea, Ch.8, S.2, p.192 </p>
<p>The idea of a fitness landscape was introduced by Sewall Wright (1932), and it has become a standard imagination prosthesis for evolutionary theorists. It has proven its value in literally thousands of applications, including many outside of evolutionary theory. In Artificial Intelligence, economics, and other problem-solving domains, the model of problem-solving by incremental hill-climbing (or &#8220;gradient ascent&#8221;) has been deservedly popular. It has even been popular enough to motivate theorists to calculate its limitations, which are severe. For certain classes of problems—or, in other words, in certain types of landscape—simple hill-climbing is quite impotent, for an intuitively obvious reason: the climbers get stuck on local second-rate summits instead of finding their way to the global summit, the Mount Everest of perfection. (The same limitations beset the method of simulated annealing.) The Local Rule is fundamental to Darwinism; it is equivalent to the requirement that there cannot be any intelligent (or &#8220;far-seeing&#8221; ) foresight in the design process, but only ultimately stupid opportunistic exploitation of whatever lucky lifting happens your way. </p>
<p>What Eigen has shown is that this simplest Darwinian model of steady improvement up a single slope of fitness to the optimal peak of perfection just doesn&#8217;t work to describe what goes on in molecular or viral evolution. The rate of adaptation by viruses (and also of bacteria and other pathogens) is measurably faster than the &#8220;classical&#8221; models predict—so fast that it seems to involve illicit &#8220;look-ahead&#8221; by the climbers. So does this mean that Darwinism must be abandoned? Not at all, for what counts as local depends (not surprisingly) on the scale you use. </p>
<p>Eigen draws our attention to the fact that when viruses evolve, they don&#8217;t go single-file; they travel in huge herds of almost identical variants, a fuzzy-edged cloud in the Library of Mendel that Eigen calls a &#8220;quasi-species.&#8221; We already saw the unimaginably large cloud of Moby Dick variants in the Library of Babel, but any actual library is likely to have more than one or two variant editions of a book on its shelves, and in the case of a really popular book like Moby Dick it is also likely to have multiple copies of the same edition. Like actual Moby Dick collections, then, actual viral clouds include multiple identical copies but also multiple copies of minor typographical variants, and this fact has some implications, according to Eigen, that have been ignored by &#8220;classical&#8221; Darwinians. It is the shape of the cloud of variants that holds the key to the speed of molecular evolution. </p>
<p>A classical term among geneticists for the canonical version of a species (analogous to the canonical text of Moby Dick) is the wild type. It was often supposed by biologists that among the many different genotypes in a population, the pure wild type would predominate. Analogous would be the claim that in any library collection of copies of Moby Dick, most copies will be of the received or canonical edition—if there is one! But this doesn&#8217;t have to be the case for organisms any more than for books in libraries. In fact, the wild type is really just an abstraction, like the Average Taxpayer, and a population may contain no individuals at all that have exactly &#8220;the&#8221; wild-type genome. (Of course, the same is true of books—scholars might debate for years over the purity of a particular word in a particular text, and until such debates were resolved, nobody could say exactly what the canonical or wild-type text of that work was, but the identity of the work would hardly be in jeopardy. James Joyce&#8217;s Ulysses would be a good case in point.) </p>
<p>Eigen points out that this distribution of the &#8220;essence&#8221; over a variety of nearly identical vehicles turns out to make that essence much more movable, much more adaptable, especially in &#8220;rugged&#8221; fitness landscapes, with multiple peaks and few smooth slopes. It permits the essence to send out efficient scouting parties into the neighboring hills and ridges, ignoring wasteful exploration of the valleys, and thereby vastly (not Vastly, but enough to make a huge difference) enhancing its capacity to find higher peaks, better optima, at some distance from its center, where the (virtual) wild type sits. </p>
<p>The reasons it works are summarized by Eigen as follows: </p>
<p>Functionally competent mutants, whose selection values come close to that of the wild type (though remaining below it), reach far higher population numbers than those that are functionally ineffective. An asymmetric spectrum of mutants builds up, in which mutants far removed from the wild type arise successively from intermediates. The population in such a chain of mutants is influenced decisively by the structure of the value landscape. The value landscape consists of connected plains, hills, and mountain ranges. In the mountain ranges, the mutant spectrum is widely scattered, and along ridges even distant relatives of the wild type appear with finite [that is, not infinitesimal] frequency. It is precisely in the mountainous regions that further selectively superior mutants can be expected. As soon as one of these turns up on the periphery of a mutation spectrum the established ensemble collapses. A new ensemble builds up around the superior mutant, which thus takes over the role of the wild type___This causal chain results in a kind of &#8216;mass action&#8217;, by which the superior mutants are tested with much higher probability than inferior mutants, even if the latter are an equal distance away from the wild type. [Eigen 1992, p. 25.]</p>
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		<title>作者：tcya</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 16:35:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[我的意思是看起来创新对采取这一策略的个体基本有害，（都破产了），好处是推动整个群体的进步，那它得以进化的理由看起来就很群体选择，所以我好奇创新和泡沫是怎么出现的]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>我的意思是看起来创新对采取这一策略的个体基本有害，（都破产了），好处是推动整个群体的进步，那它得以进化的理由看起来就很群体选择，所以我好奇创新和泡沫是怎么出现的</p>
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		<title>作者：辉格</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Dec 2011 14:52:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[对，是没说，不过在别处说过一些，我认为泡沫是一种事后落空了的、经由自我强化而膨胀的集体信念，由于人的信念容易被旁人的相同信念强化，因而一个群体起初稍稍偏向乐观的情绪，容易发展成集体的狂热。

最后一段跟群选择无关，因为涉及的可能是很多物种，这是个关于生态系统的观点。]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>对，是没说，不过在别处说过一些，我认为泡沫是一种事后落空了的、经由自我强化而膨胀的集体信念，由于人的信念容易被旁人的相同信念强化，因而一个群体起初稍稍偏向乐观的情绪，容易发展成集体的狂热。</p>
<p>最后一段跟群选择无关，因为涉及的可能是很多物种，这是个关于生态系统的观点。</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Dec 2011 03:23:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[辉总说了泡沫的作用，但似乎还是没有说为什么会有泡沫啊。最后一段大自然推动进化这种有点群体选择味道的不能算理由吧]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>辉总说了泡沫的作用，但似乎还是没有说为什么会有泡沫啊。最后一段大自然推动进化这种有点群体选择味道的不能算理由吧</p>
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